Showing posts with label the way we live. Show all posts
Showing posts with label the way we live. Show all posts

Wednesday, December 10, 2008

Daily Telegraph Letter(s) of the Day

Being away from home and staying in a hotel I have more time for the papers. I liked this one, it sums up the Governments our confusion about drugs and tobacco very nicely:

SIR – Last week it was reported that illegal drug use was costing the NHS £15 billion a year – 10 times the cost of treating smoking-related illnesses.

As illegal drugs have never been displayed for sale or put in fancy packaging, but always sold "under the counter", this method of marketing seems very effective, as there are more illegal drug users now than legal tobacco users.

But then, it is much easier to target the corner shop than the vast organised business of supplying illegal substances.

Stephen Leader

Chessington, Surrey

On a personal level, as a non-smoker of nearly 24 years standing I sometimes partake in this little pleasure:

SIR – I will regret the disappearance of tobacco products from display in shops and supermarkets.

I take great pleasure in checking the price of packets of 20 king-size filters. They were 37·5 pence a packet when I gave them up.

Mike Cooper

Southport, Lancashire

Just in case anyone passing through doesn't understand my position on smoking and drugs: I support the right of people to smoke, I was against the banning of smoking in pubs and I support the legalisation of drugs. I would, though, ban smoking outside.

Thursday, November 13, 2008

My response to Dr Crippen's post on the moral outrage against social workers

Dr Crippen has a post about baby P in which he takes the rest of us to task for our collective desire to find a scpegoat and crucify a social worker in the baby P case:

It’s time, once again, to vent our collective spleens.

It’s time, once again, for those on the moral high ground to stand up and be counted.

It’s time, once again, to crucify a social worker.
I'm not going to fisk the post as I have made 2 long comments, 37 and 38, which I have copied here:

The moral outrage from the rest of us in cases like this is driven by frutration.

Frustration at our inability to protect children, despite the huge amount of tax payers money devoted to social services. Maybe not enough for those spending it, but it seems like a a hell of a lot to those of us paying it.

Frustration at the lack of mea culpa. Nobody seems to have ownership in cases like this. I don't believe that someone should necessarily be fired every time something goes wrong when events like these occur. However the lack of ownership by one person is probably the biggest factor whenever something so catastrophic and tragic happens in any walk of live. How can we learn if nobody has ownership?

Frustration at the iablity professionals to learn by past mistakes. Professionals are supposed to be experts in their field yet we hear cries for more supervision. Either they are drones who need supervision or they are professionals who can be trusted to call for help when they need it.

Frustration that, despite very good wages, managers lack the ability to manage. They can't see when something is going wrong and fix it before the problem gets so far out of hand. Thats what managers should be doing, not constantly supervising individual professionals but taking a wider view ensuring that systems and procedures are in place to catch the exceptions that lead to these hoorendous deaths.

Frustration to learn that yet again its a lack of communication that is the root cause, despite the £millions spent on IT and telecoms, hours spent in cross departmental meetings and the appointment of evermore coordinators.

Frustration that the "system" seems hell bent in keeping children in care rather than risk them going to live with people prepared to offer them a home, time, love and dedication because they might smoke. Frustration that we know that this will extend from one borough to the rest of the country and more children will suffer at the hands of self righteous indignation that people smoke.

Frustration that the standard response is yet more enquiries and reviews, which only seem to give those involved a chance to take one pace back with a "not my fault guv" shrug of their shoulders.

Frustration that despite all these enquiries we find that recommendations of the learned people who chair them are ignored by the Government and professionals, only for the same mistakes to be made again.

Frustration that whenever we raise our concerns we are told that we don't understand and should leave it to the professionals, only to see another child die in such distressing circumstances. Yet at the same time those same professionals are drawing up plans to give themselves power to remove overweight children from their parents and place them into a system that can be so broken that this child died.

So, Dr C, by all means point out that some of the moral outrage may be misplaced, but don't think for one minute that it isn't real or unwaranted.

And yes, if we never heard of another death we would ignore social service, but thats the point isn't it? Professionals want to be left alone to get on with their jobs while the rest of us go out and generate the wealth to pay for them?

Friday, November 14, 2008 4:33:00 AM
Blogger The Great Simpleton said...

Ok, so that's the general outrage dealt with and now this:
[my emphasis]

"You cannot legislate to eradicate evil. There is no system on earth that will protect us against Harold Shipman, Fred West, Peter Sutcliffe and all the rest of them. You do the best you can, in difficult circumstances. Some times you get it wrong. Haringay Council got it wrong this time. God, did they get it wrong and, yes, once again we need to examine procedures and see if we can get it any better.

But, once again, the whole emphasis of the story is on social services rather than on the evil thugs that committed the offence. It was the same with Victoria Climbie:"

Yes there are evil people but we know that, that's why we have set up social services and other specialists, to protect the vulnerable. That's why we give them special powers, so they can act to protect the vulnerable.

I agree that there will always be hard cases like Shipman and most people accepted that fact and looked to the subsequent enquiry to provide the recommendations that protect us from from future Shipmans. But if it happens again the moral outrage will be deafening, because yet again we will have found that professionals have becaome self righteous and compacent and unable to learn from past mistakes.

And that's the point with this moral outrage, as I said in my first comment, we've seen it all before.

Tuesday, November 11, 2008

How many more inquiries does it take to save a child

Every time a child dies at the hand of cruel parents under the the noses of the Social Services we get more hand wringing, more calls for enquiries, more claims that things are getting better and systems improving. Yet children still continue to die hideous deaths for want of basic care from those tasked to protect them.

Won't someone put their hand up and say they got it wrong and apologise? I don't know what's worse, the death or the hand wringing crocodile tears as everyone takes a quick step backwards with a "not me gov" shrug.

PS I find the whole story of Baby P too distressing to link to let alone include some of the story, googly Bapy P if you don't know the story

Friday, November 07, 2008

More evidnce BBC doesn't understand "customers"

Working from home again today and I've had Radio 5 on and off this morning and the two female presenters I have heard have really got in to a lather over this story :

Quantum of quiet: Cinema group bans children from Bond film so adults can watch it in peace

children will be banned by one cinema group from seeing the new James Bond film so that adults can watch it in peace.

Legally, because Quantum Of Solace has a 12A certificate, children can watch it - although those under 12 need to be accompanied.

However, Vue cinema group found many adults resent children talking, texting and noisily eating in cinemas.
The presenters couldn't get their head round the fact that some adults don't want to be around other people's children. More importantly though they had the MD of the cinema group on at lunch time and he keptanswering the questions with "Our customers have asked for it", which was met with further questions asking him to justify it.

I know the beeb has to be all things to all men (women, ethnic, sexuality etc), but surely they have presenters who are mature enough to realise in the real world if we want to eat we have to provide a service our customers want and will pay for. It wasn't as if this company isn't offering some screenings parents with children and for children on their own.

Saturday, May 31, 2008

This is real citizenship

As a parent I applaud this woman, she has made one of the hardest decisions you could expect any parent to make.

A mother has said she has no regrets about reporting her sons to the police after learning they had brutally attacked a man on a night out.

Carol Saldinack, 51, of Norfolk, said she was so ashamed of their behaviour she could barely look them in the eye.

But if she kept quiet, she would be as guilty as they were, she told the BBC.

We all want to believe that our children saints and if they do wrong its because they were misled by someone else's children. It takes real strength of character to accept that, despite your best efforts, they have done something wrong. It takes even more strength, and yes even bravery* in this case because of the violence involved, to turn them in to the police to face a prison sentence.


*Bravery is a an over used word, especially in sporting contexts, which demean those who do make brave decisions, by which I mean taking a conscious decision to do something that may lead to injury or death.

Monday, May 12, 2008

Paying for Social Care

Having said I'm blogging light my friend isn't back yet and this story has been bugging me all day:

Prime Minister Gordon Brown has pledged to reform the social care system for England's ageing population.

He says that without a radical shake up, the care system in England alone faces a £6bn shortfall within 20 years.

OK, I see the need for constant debate on this subject but its the soft answers from ministers that is the problem:
He said he understood the anxieties of families who fear having to sell their own homes to pay for long-term care, and of losing assets they would otherwise have passed onto family or friends.

To combat this, he suggested ideas including better collaboration between health and social services, and helping people to save for their old age while protecting their homes and inheritance.

WTF this all about? They want to tax me so that someone else can leave their homes and savings to their spoilt brats?

This is exactly what is wrong with the cradle to grave state. Nobody wants to take responsibility for themselves when times are bad.

The PM should be screaming that everyone has a duty to save for their own age and what's more they will use up their savings, within reason before they get masses of tax payers money thrown at them. I certainly expect people to sell their homes to pay for long term care and if their family don't like it, you look after you parents, I've got my own problems to deal with.

And in case you wondering I am not a hypocrite, I have savings and I have made it quite clear to the sprog I will spend these on ensuring that the closing days of my life are comfortable first and he shouldn't expect an inheritance, he will get what's left. I made sacrifices to generate these saving and I don't see why they should go to supporting those who have pissed their money up against a wall. Fortunately he's a good socialist and doesn't believe in inheritance - idiot!

I am well aware of the moral hazard and that nobody will save beyond 65 or so - well if they are that stupid and blow all their money when they are young then they will have some memories to draw on when they are at the bottom of the care queue.

When it comes to the welfare state it should first and foremost look after those who have had a bad deal from life ie partners dying when there are young families, the disabled, ill etc, not those who want to inherit a comfortable life.

Just had a final thought before I pressed the publish button - I suppose its too much to expect a Governement that saved the square root of fuck all when times were good to lecture people to do them same themselves. When can we get rid of these bastards?

Sunday, May 04, 2008

PR, The BNP and Civil Servants

According to the dead tree version of the Telegraph, civil servants at City Hall are likely to refuse to work for the elected BNP candidate. Furthermore they are being supported by Tory Assembly members and, building a straw man, I will hazard a guess Labour members as well.

This is outrageous and any civil servant who refuses to work with the BNP member should be fired for gross dereliction of duty and lose their gold plated pensions.

I have always been against PR for 2 reasons, firstly it leads to muddled politics with nobody having a clear opportunity to deliver their manifest. Secondly, and more importantly, it allows minority parties to get elected, which is what happened here no matter how despicable they are.

But who am I to doubt the our leaders and their infinite wisdom; they decided that London was to have PR and now we have to live with the consequences. As Mark Twain said - the people have spoken, the bastards.

The BNP may be a despicable bunch and I wouldn't vote for them if my life depended on it, but some deluded fools did and we have to respect their views. It is therefore incumbent on those who are paid bey the state and who were also elected by deluded fools to treat them with the same respect they expected to be treated themselves.

If you support PR and hate the BNP go and look in the mirror because you let them in and having done that you have a duty to respect them and the people who put elected them.

Maybe Mark Twain should have said - our leaders have implemented an idea, the bastards.

Thursday, May 01, 2008

ACPO to defy Brown on Cannabis

According to the Telegraph:

Police will not toughen their approach to cannabis when ministers upgrade the legal status of the drug to class B, it has been disclosed.
The Association of Chief Police Officers has confirmed that the current policy of “confiscate and warn” will continue, despite Gordon Brown’s wish to send out a “tough message” on cannabis use.

Good. There is nothing so unedifying as a Labour politician, or inded ay politician, pandering to the social authoritarians at the Daily Mail.
A spokesman for Acpo said: “The key will be the discretion for officers to strike the right balance.

“We do not want to criminalise young people who are experimenting.”

Why criminalise anyone who is just using and not offending anone else?

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Who are these selfish drivers

I am far from perfect as a driver and I don't expect other road users to be perfect either. We all have lapses in concentration for which if caught we can be punished. Furthermore I never knowingly speed in built up areas and often go slower than the speed limit, but on the open road and motorways, well its whatever the conditions will allow.

So with that disclaimer done I have to say I have been dismayed by what we have been hearing about fellow drivers and their general attitude attitude, not least to schools and school children.

Firstly, a colleague returned to work today nursing a broken rib and severely bruised arm following a road rage incident on the M11. He admits he cut up another driver when changing lanes from 3 to 2 but it wasn't serious, well at least in his eyes. The other driver though differently and chased my colleague, eventually rear ending him at 65mph. When my colleague pulled over the other driver attacked him.

In the Telegraph this morning we read that a lolly-pop lady has been fitted with a camera to catch motorists putting children at risk:

Lollipop poles with in-built cameras will be used to trap drivers involved in dangerous and abusive behaviour.

The move comes after 1,400 such incidents were reported to council's throughout the country last year.

Dozens of patrol staff have required hospital treatment after being struck by vehicles and others have complained of regular intimidation.


And then the BBC carries a story about police needing to film the entrance of a school because of selfish drivers putting children at risk:
A car with a CCTV camera built into a periscope has begun patrolling outside schools amid concerns drivers are putting children at risk.

The high-tech camera is being used to deter parents from parking near school gates in Harrow, north-west London, after complaints from headteachers.

Are we so selfish and stressed that we can't forgive a minor infraction, wait for children to cross the road or park far enough away from a school gate?

Selfish and abusive behaviour like this should carry double the penalty and if it leads to injury you have to wonder why people should be allowed to drive.

Wednesday, April 16, 2008

Pensions and Inheritence Tax

I've just been (half) listening to an argument on Radio 5 Live's Wake Up To Money in which life expectancy and pensions were discussed. It seems that anyone over the age of 50 (?) now has a 50% chance of living to the age of 90. This is good news for those who do, especially if they are reasonably fit and healthy for most of the time.

The problem seems to be that very few people have the pension savings to allow them to fund living that long and they will become an increasing burden on the state, by which they mean the rest of the working population. This problem is exacerbated by the change in demography that means in a couple of years time there will be more pensioners than children.

Despite exhortations from our politicians with their gold plated politicians to save more the situation is getting worse with fewer people planning for their retirement as this article notes:

Other figures published by the ONS show that active membership of private pension schemes has continued to decline among men, but fell at a much slower rate among women.

From 1999-2000 to 2005-06, the proportion of working age men who were members of any scheme fell from 49% to 43% at just 7.6 million.

Although 6.2 million women were members, they represented 37% of working age women, down from 38% six years earlier.

There are many reasons why people aren't planning adequately for the retirement but I reckon there are 2 key ones:

Moral Hazard Why should people save if they know the state will bail them out? Whilst the state pension may be small there are means tested benefits that mean pensioners aren't destitute. Now this may not be much when you get there there but for younger people there is a belief that the state will provide. Why should someone forgo expensive holidays, cars, nice house, a good pissup every weekend and all the other trappings of consumer life if the Government will bail them out anyway? Indeed it makes those who do forgo these experiences seem pretty stupid. Which leads quite nicely to the second:

Inheritance Tax Who know how long we need to save for? So if we do save what happens to our money if we die early? Well as we all know the State thinks it owns a huge part of it and will help itself to what it likes. Over the years they have helped themselves to ever increasing proportions of that money rather than allow us to pass it on to our children.

Yes I know this is a very complicated subject and I could be writing all day, but unless we address these 2 problems there is no way that we will be able to get more people saving adequate amounts for their retirement.

Monday, April 07, 2008

The dumbing down of the MSM continues apace

Having a quick break from writing presentations I had a look at the beeb's news pages to see if anything new had happened and was appalled by this headline :

The 'tapas seven'
The central witnesses in the Madeleine McCann case ..

FFS, this is not some story created for sub editors to have a bit of fun trying to see who can come up with most eye catching pun, its a real story about about a missing girl and distraught parents.

Is there no story that the MSM can't reduce to the banal? Are we all so dumb now that we can't read serious news without some weak pun to attract us?

It wouldn't be so bad, although still unacceptable, if it was some commercial organisation needing click through to generate revenues.

Saturday, April 05, 2008

Max Mosely affair brings us some ugly insights in to our national attitudes

I am on a business trip in the ME and have been spared most of the prurient and hypocritical commentary about Mosely's shenanigans, thankfully. But I have heard enough to make me realise that Longrider has an excellent take on the whole subject. It is worth a full read but he sums up my view far better than I could:

Any suggestion that this is in the public interest is pure fantasy. It is not. What a public figure does in the privacy of their own home – or bordello – is no one’s business but theirs and the other participants; providing those activities take place between consenting adults. The wheeling out of the professional victim brigade to claim that Mosely’s “disgusting” and “perverted” activities were offensive to them would be laughable if so many stupid people didn’t take it so seriously.

What is really dispiriting is that should one of our politicians or other so called community leader stand up and make this point there will be howls of outrage and they will be pursued to the ends of the earth by the liberal media.

How did we get to this point where it is acceptable to spy on people's private lives and condemn activities between consenting adults, yet making a comment in support of their right to do it is tantamount to having I'm a paedophile tattooed on you forehead?

There's no wonder Brown can get away with his totalitarian moves to increase detention without trial, remove Coroners when it suits them, introduce ID cards and the attendant National Database etc.

Sunday, March 23, 2008

Social stigmas and the welfare state

Burning Our Money has a very good post on life in Dewsbury Moorside and specifically the road where Shannon Matthew's family live. I don't intend to copy the post here or make many references because I want to talk about how we go here. But to give you an insight:

But round our way, that isn't what people are talking about. Round our way, everyone's clucking about her family circumstances, five siblings by different fathers and all. And those neighbours we met at the street celebrations afterwards [go and see the picture, but not while you are eating]

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According to the local paper this is "one of most deprived areas in the country". That conclusion is based on a giant number crunching exercise carried out by the Department for Communities and Local Government and known as the Index of Deprivation 2007.

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Another big difference is in working for a living. Unemployment and "incapacity" together account for around 13% of the adult population not working, compared to 8% nationally. Add in another 4% for lone parents (see below) not working, and we've got around 17% of the working age population being supported by the state rather than earning their own way. That's about 70% higher than the national average.

Against that background it's not surprising that welfare payments make up a good proportion of the community's income. 23% of the working age population claim a "key benefit" (cf 14% nationally), including 4% on Jobseekers Allowance, and 10% on Incapacity Benefit. Income support claimants, at 10% of the population, are three times the national average, and Housing and Council Tax Benefit claimants (14%) are more than 50% above average.

So how have we got to this point? At one time people would have been ashamed to have children out of wedlock, but even when they did parents tended to stick together. teenage pregnancy was a great source of social stigma, which gave girls the incentive to keep their legs closed until they had at least a promise of marriage. Nobody would accept unemployment as a way of life, as well as living in poverty it was part of a man's duty to provide and if you didn't you were looked down on.

I think iit is a good thing that we no longer have these social stigmas; what people do with their life is their business within reason, but we seem to have gone from accepting these lifestyles to positively rewarding them. Which means that humans beings, being fairly rational, will see them as a career choice.

So what can be done? I don't want to see a return to stigmatising people for their lifestyle choices, that path leads to honour killings, back street abortions and suicides. BOM is partly right:
So here are some suggestions:

Freeze welfare benefits, especially the reward for having children: welfare should not be an attractive career choice
Freeze the minimum wage: Brown likes to brag how the minimum wage has not destroyed jobs, but in areas like the poor end of Dewsbury a national minimum wage almost certainly means unskilled low-end labour cannot find work

But these are symptoms. We need to get the apologists for these people, the Polly Toynbee's of this world, to stop excusing people. We have to get our politicians to stop their race to the bottom, seeing who can give away most of our money, and get them to start preaching personal responsibility.

I hate saying this because we push too much on to schools but they are the ones who have to inculcate personal responsibility in to our children. Nobody should be leaving school without a clear understanding that they, and they alone, are responsible for their own lives. Yes there will be a minimum standard of life for the unfortunate, but not the reckless and feckless. A CBI payment is probably worth a try.

Saturday, March 22, 2008

Give 'em a good slap

Not the kids, the parents.

This is obviously a self serving story put out by the TUC to support their claims for more of whatever it is they want - money, time off, teachers; but it is still a sad reflection on the way we live.

Research for the National Union of Teachers (NUT) suggested a minority of children threw tantrums, swore and were physically aggressive.

No mention of how big the minority is, but we'll let it pass as I have other things to do. Anyway, we are treated to some fine examples, possibly the only ones in the report, but good for their cause:
It described a mother who celebrated the fact she had been able to get her five-year-old to bed at 1am instead of his previous bedtime of 3am.

..

It also told of a seven-year-old who smashed up his Playstation in a tantrum, then spent a week pestering his mother until she bought him a new one.

The researchers said some parents simply could not say "no" when their children demanded televisions and computers in their bedrooms.

Yes children do that, they push things to the limit, but it really isn't the child's fault, they are programmed to get away with what they can.*
Then we have the blindingly obvious quote to pad out the story:
"Others would do "anything to shut up their children just to get some peace", it said."
Of course we all know who to blame really, don't we. yes, it those horrible free marketeers:
Mr Sinnott said the problem lay with parents who were struggling with little or no help to bring up their children in a heavily commercialised world.

He wants a ban on advertising aimed at children.

"Parents are trying to cope by indulging, or by over-indulging, their youngsters," he said.

Ahaa, that's what this is about, more bansturbation. No thought to the parents who aren't struggling and have no objections, no, just ban it. Lets not forget that they did claim that it was only a minority of parents who were struggling, so they are talkking about baning the majorouty from going about their lawful business.

I'm getting bored now so I'll finish with the reason for the post title:
NUT boss Steve Sinnott is calling for more advice for parents who struggle to say "no" to their children.

No, Steve, they don't need "help", and by that I assume you mean more civil servants and higher taxes, they just need a good slap and to be told not to be so soft.

*The Economist carried an interesting article a couple of weeks ago which showed that babies will cry more if they think that the adult nearby will feed them more. They cry less if the adult refuses.
For a long time such signals have been considered honest—at least by childless zoologists. The more noise an infant makes, the hungrier it is. However, Matthew Bell, a zoologist at Cambridge University, now suspects that a degree of dishonesty and manipulation may be involved.
There is, he says, a conflict of interest between parents and offspring, with offspring frequently wanting more resources than the parents would readily provide. But because the parents do not know for sure how hungry their child is, they are liable to manipulation.

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He thinks the findings are more broadly applicable. In human infants, there is the same kind of “information battle”, in which parents try to understand the cues that accurately convey information about what their offspring needs, versus what they can get away with. Parents of over-fussy babies, or tantrum-prone children, will not be pleased to discover it is their very attentiveness that is making matters worse. It is painful to acknowledge, but marketers were right all along: pester power works


Another example of research confirming what we know.

Sunday, March 09, 2008

Manners maketh the man

and an orderly society for that matter, which is why this story from the Croydonian is so disappointing and, as a he says, a poor reflection on modern day living.

The Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, today unveiled new Tube signs aimed at encouraging Tube users to consider their fellow passengers and to think about who might need a seat most on the Underground.

New priority seating stickers, which will be rolled out throughout the Underground from March 10, will now ask passengers to give up their seat for pregnant women, as well as for people with disabilities or for those less able to stand. This is the first time that pregnant women have been included in the signs.

It was drilled in to me as a child not just to stand up for a pregnant woman but also for any woman, elderly person or person who is obviously having difficulty standing.

I am not saying we should go back to some mythical age of chivalry but such courtesies are part of helping society get through its daily drudgery in a pleasant and cohesive way. It shouldn't be passengers on public transport he is aiming at but all parents.

Thursday, February 14, 2008

Valentine Cards - unwanted sexual advances

According to Radio 4 this morning (I'm sure it will be on the web somewhere if you look,) sending a Valentine's card to a work colleague can be seen as an unwanted sexual advance and therefore grounds for sacking. Well of course it would be unwanted if the person receiving it decided so; in the same way that any advance can be seen as sexual and unwanted by those receiving them. But we should remember any advance to another person the way human relationships friendships and relationships start.

Now if someone, having been refused once or twice, continues with these advances I accept that it is harassment and employers should start to look at harassment. But before it gets to that stage the employer will probably be more concerned about the impact on efficiency.

Oh, and another point, do those who claim that sending a single Valentine's card can be a sackable offence realise how difficult it is to sack someone these days? Especially if it happens to be, say, a pregnant woman who is doing the harassing.

Its bad enough living in the unfriendly "darn sarf" where trying to strike up any conversation is seen by most as the work of a nutter without idiotic stories like these getting air time.

Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Mosquito on kids

Warning - personal story alert - may be boring!

I was appalled by this latest story about the product that screams at kids but can't be heard by adults. We seem to spend all our time denigrating kids and tarring them all with the same brush. Well from what I have seen through the sprog and his mates we are in safe hands.

Its not as if kids hanging around is anything new and from personal experience I believe if treated properly it isn't a problem. Let me tell you a boring story from my youth.

This New Year I spent a few nights in a hotel in a small North Yorkshire town with the Great Wiseone and some friends. It just so happens that this town happens to be where TGS spent his teen years in the late 60's and early 70's. There is a large roundabout in this town and despite having an access to a very well equipped youth club we preferred to hang about at this roundabout - messing about and watching the world go by.

There were complaints and the local copper used to come by regularly and occasionally move us on, but we just returned. I am sure, no I know, older people found us intimidating but that wasn't our aim. We all had long hair as this was the fashion, and don't forget this was new, and some wore leathers.

Of that group most have done very well for ourselves and have brought up children responsibly. Those kids also went through similar phases.

Ah, but today's kids are worse, they swear and drink alcohol some would say. Well they have got this from their parents so we can't blame the kids. I'll never forget moving to Ealing in London for a few weeks in the early 90's and hearing groups of women stood in the road effing and blinding in general conversation whilst their toddlers stood around listening. We reap what we sow.

What we need is more PC Plods wandering around engaging with the kids, not more rules and abuse of them.

UPDATE: The Dude says it all a lot more succinctly that I here and here. Please find the time to read them, they are good.